Thursday, April 22, 2010

Planets Going Backwards

Tranisiting exoplanets are found by the light curve they create when passing in front of their parent star. Many of these planets are "hot Jupiters" orbiting very close to stars. Discovery of nine new transiting exoplanets was announced this week. When these results were combined with earlier discoveries, it was found that 6 of 27 exoplanets were orbiting in the opposite direction from the star's rotation. This challenges theories of stellar formation.

Since Pierre Laplace, scientists have thought that solar systems condense from rotating disks of gas. As a result, the planets should orbit the same direction as the star rotates, as in our solar system. Unfortunately nature does not follow the theory. The very existence of "hot Jupiters" challenges the old theory. Orbiting so close to their parent star, these planets should boil away. The theory can not explain how planetary embryos can form from dust. If particles collide at orbital velocity they will ricochet rather than stick together.

If these planets formed around Black Holes, they would follow the Black Hole's rotation independently of the parent star. The Black Hole would not suck these planets up, but would stabilize their centres. As a result Jupiter-size planets could exist very close to Suns, as observed. Black Holes could exist within most planets, even Earth. Planets orbiting in the opposite direction from their stars are another sign of Black Holes where no one has thought to look.

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Blogger donkerheid said...


I have just popped in, but this seems exciting. How do you mean that even Earth may have a black hole?

thank you,

2:14 AM  
Blogger L. Riofrio said...

Welcome, donkerheid. Yes, there could be a Black Hole in the last place people would look. It would be tiny, barely a millimeter across but having 1/10 the mass of the Moon. It would be primordial, formed shortly after the Big Bang. It could have seeded Earth's formation the way a pearl grows around a grain of sand.

The Black Hole would be far too tiny to suck us up, but would consume barely what a human eats, about 1 ton per year. This small amount, converted to radiation, would keep Earth's core hot over billions of years. The Black Hole's rotation would cause charged particles to spiral around it, seeding Earth's magnetic field. Thsi would explain many things about Earth and planets.

1:05 PM  
Blogger donkerheid said...

This is awesome, thank you. And where comes the idea from? Do you have ideas of actually finding any such black holes? And does this replace awkward explanations in presently dominating theories? I don't know too much about this matter :).

8:28 PM  
Blogger Ulla said...

I have tried to ask some questions, but maybe on wrong places?

Is this your theory written somewhere? Could you please give a link?

I saw that Frampton has a brandnew paper on primordial black holes too in arXive.

These are my questions:
I'm interested in this subject and Kea said I should look here.

I asked you earlier what made Mars loose its magnetic producing core? The core was chrystallized. The tiny black hole was annihilated?

The black hole eats the Earth but there are also a theory of an expanding Earth, many geologists think about this. This theory is 'prooved' by this link? How can these theories coexist?

What force could induce this expansion against the gravity, or is the gravity changed?

The magnetic field of Earth is also not constant, it can even stop totally and be reversed. How can you explain this?

You can look who I am on

8:21 PM  
Blogger L. Riofrio said...

Hello ulla: If a Black Hole in Mars were not fed enough, it would evaporate. That would produce a large flash of radiation in Mars' core that would eventually die out, leaving the planet cold.

The Black Hole theory does not yet have a peer-reviewed publication. A brief paper on Black Holes in Saturn's Rings is at

The Black Hole would rotate independently of Earth, causing a magnetic field that is not aligned with the geopgraphic poles. From time to time it's spin would change direction, causing Earth's field to shift, pause or even flip.

Donkerheid and ulla have interesting questions, making this writer think about "Dinner With a Black Hole." That might answer more of your queries.

3:10 AM  
Blogger Ulla said...


I read from Framptons paper, Primordial Black holes as dark matter, and he writes as one possibility for PBH/DM creation:
'One is phase transition involving violent processes like bubble collision' - How can bubbles form? Density fluctuations, but what make those? A variation in the cosmological constant, that would give an acceleration? The acceleration is not constant either, but fluctuate? What would make light loose its energy, when it is massless? Can temp. invoke on a massless thing?

The two stage inflation model is not bad either.

Why is there a plasma shield against BigBang? Everyone assumes we are moving AWAY FROM big bang, but the shield say we are MOVING TO big Bang?

He also assumes a 'supergravity' if I understood it right. But dark matter should then have only one dimension, gravity, no other force. I can't understand that.

Well,I shall let you have your dinner :) Bon Appetite

7:20 AM  

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